Redmine

Go MAEDA wrote:

• Current translation have a little bit strange feeling.

See #9129.

Toshi MARUYAMA wrote (#23109#note-1):

r15573 (#23108) changed "Bare、かつ、ローカルリポジトリ" to "ローカルのベアリポジトリ".
This is regression of #9129 that changed English "Bare and local repository" to "Repository is bare and local".

"ローカルのベアリポジトリ" means not "Repository is bare and local" ("リポジトリはbareかつローカルです"). It means "local and bare repository". "ベアリポジトリ" is one word in Japanese, so "Bare、かつ、ローカルリポジトリ" seems to be strange.

I think "ベア(bare)なローカルリポジトリ" is better.

Go MAEDA wrote:

Toshi MARUYAMA wrote (#23109#note-1):

r15573 (#23108) changed "Bare、かつ、ローカルリポジトリ" to "ローカルのベアリポジトリ".
This is regression of #9129 that changed English "Bare and local repository" to "Repository is bare and local".

"ローカルのベアリポジトリ" means not "Repository is bare and local" ("リポジトリはbareかつローカルです"). It means "local and bare repository". "ベアリポジトリ" is one word in Japanese, so "Bare、かつ、ローカルリポジトリ" seems to be strange.

Yes. But I thought "リポジトリはBareでローカル" is more strange in Japanese at five years ago (#9129).

Toshi MARUYAMA wrote:

I think "ベア(bare)なローカルリポジトリ" is better.

The expression "ベアなリポジトリ" and "ベアなローカルリポジトリ" are not so typical. Google returns only 1 result for "ベアなリポジトリ".
https://www.google.co.jp/webhp?hl=ja&ictx=2&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjBiPjfi7TNAhWDVZQKHRfEDhMQPQgD#hl=ja&q=%22%E3%83%99%E3%82%A2%E3%81%AA%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9D%E3%82%B8%E3%83%88%E3%83%AA%22

Yes. But I thought "リポジトリはBareでローカル" is more strange in Japanese at five years ago (#9129).

I agree with you about this. And I think "Bare、かつ、ローカルリポジトリ" is also not so natural. So I have suggested changing it to "ローカルのベアリポジトリ". "ローカルのベアリポジトリ" expressing "bare and local", isn't it?

There were many FAQs "Why Redmine does not work on non bare?" (#9129#note-6).
So it is "bare and local", not "local and bare".
"ローカルのベアリポジトリ" means "local bare repository".
I cannot accept.

Toshi MARUYAMA wrote:

There were many FAQs "Why Redmine does not work on non bare?" (#9129#note-6).
So it is "bare and local", not "local and bare".
"ローカルのベアリポジトリ" means "local bare repository".
I cannot accept.

It is very clear that "ローカルのベアリポジトリ" saying that repository should be bare. Please explain why this is unacceptable?

Go MAEDA wrote:

It is very clear that "ローカルのベアリポジトリ" saying that repository should be bare. Please explain why this is unacceptable?

Shared repository should be bare. So bare is more important than local.
There is remote bare repository.

Go MAEDA wrote:

Toshi MARUYAMA wrote:

I think "ベア(bare)なローカルリポジトリ" is better.

The expression "ベアなリポジトリ" and "ベアなローカルリポジトリ" are not so typical. Google returns only 1 result for "ベアなリポジトリ".
https://www.google.co.jp/webhp?hl=ja&ictx=2&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjBiPjfi7TNAhWDVZQKHRfEDhMQPQgD#hl=ja&q=%22%E3%83%99%E3%82%A2%E3%81%AA%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9D%E3%82%B8%E3%83%88%E3%83%AA%22

"bareなリポジトリ" hits 225 results.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22bare%E3%81%AA%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9D%E3%82%B8%E3%83%88%E3%83%AA%22

Toshi MARUYAMA wrote:

Go MAEDA wrote:

It is very clear that "ローカルのベアリポジトリ" saying that repository should be bare. Please explain why this is unacceptable?

Shared repository should be bare. So bare is more important than local.
There is remote bare repository.

"ローカルのベアリポジトリ" says "local", there is no possibility of misunderstanding.

Toshi MARUYAMA wrote:

"bareなリポジトリ" hits 225 results.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22bare%E3%81%AA%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9D%E3%82%B8%E3%83%88%E3%83%AA%22

"ベアリポジトリ" is more common. We can see 1610 results.
https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=%22%E3%83%99%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9D%E3%82%B8%E3%83%88%E3%83%AA%22

Go MAEDA wrote:

"ベアリポジトリ" is more common. We can see 1610 results.
https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=%22%E3%83%99%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9D%E3%82%B8%E3%83%88%E3%83%AA%22

I think 1610 results is NOT common.
And I think "bare" should not be translated to "ベア" because it is confusing with bear.

Go MAEDA wrote:

"ローカルのベアリポジトリ" says "local", there is no possibility of misunderstanding.

If the person does not know "bare".

$ git init repo

Then, "Why does Redmine not work?"
-> "Because you didn't use --bare option."

But, in case of "ベア(bare)なローカルリポジトリ".
"What is bare?"
"Oh, I see. I need to use --bare option."

"ベア(bare)なローカルリポジトリ" reduces misunderstanding than "ローカルのベアリポジトリ".

Toshi MARUYAMA wrote:

"ベア(bare)なローカルリポジトリ" reduces misunderstanding than "ローカルのベアリポジトリ".

How about changing it to "ベアリポジトリ(ローカル)"? Official git website uses "ベアリポジトリ" and the term is very common, so googling about it is very easy for everyone.

I feel "ベアなリポジトリ" strange.

Go MAEDA wrote:

• In official Japanese reference of Git , "bare repository" is translated as "ベアリポジトリ", not "bareリポジトリ".

I don't think it is official.
It is one of arbitrary translations.
https://github.com/progit/progit/blame/2d5a6cfa9f94028be6f96c03cf2138c7655a0e46/ja/04-git-server/01-chapter4.markdown#L9
There is no official Japanese translation.
https://github.com/git/git/tree/cf4c2cfe52be5bd973a4838f73a/po
Simplified Chinese has official glossary.
https://github.com/git/git/blob/cf4c2cfe52be5bd973a4838f73a35d3959ce2f43/po/zh_CN.po#L26

bare repository | 纯仓库

I have created issue.
https://github.com/progit/progit/issues/951

Go MAEDA wrote:

• In official Japanese reference of Git

This is v1.
v2 is https://git-scm.com/book/ja/v2/Git%E3%82%B5%E3%83%BC%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%83%88%E3%82%B3%E3%83%AB

I have created v2 ja issue.
https://github.com/progit/progit2-ja/issues/98

Toshi MARUYAMA wrote:

There is no official Japanese translation.
https://github.com/git/git/tree/cf4c2cfe52be5bd973a4838f73a/po
Simplified Chinese has official glossary.
https://github.com/git/git/blob/cf4c2cfe52be5bd973a4838f73a35d3959ce2f43/po/zh_CN.po#L26

bare repository | 纯仓库

"用語集作成スレ"
https://github.com/progit/progit2-ja/issues/29

Toshi MARUYAMA wrote:

I have created v2 ja issue.
https://github.com/progit/progit2-ja/issues/98

Accepted.
https://github.com/progit/progit2-ja/commit/34a99ee963a50225c9baa61e14ace6d52164b49a

Toshi MARUYAMA wrote:

Accepted.
https://github.com/progit/progit2-ja/commit/34a99ee963a50225c9baa61e14ace6d52164b49a

Nice work. Can you accept "ローカルのベア(bare)リポジトリ" as a new translation for text_git_repository_note?

Committed in trunk r16032, thanks.